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Our DevTeach Experience Follow-Up

I have one more point to add in respect of our Vancouver DevTeach experience in June of this year. If you read my blog last week you will know that I had a complaint about the lack of conference materials in general and specifically that:

There was also no conference CD (though I did get an Email telling me that session materials would be downloadable from 6/18)

Well, I just downloaded the session materials for the sessions I wanted and I am seriously angry - for several reasons: 

  • There is no composite download. You have to go to the web site and download each sessions's materials individually.  There are not even files by track - only by session. What a waste of time!
  • Even the session file(s) are not consistent - some have 1 file, some have a dozen. Why couldn't the presenters have zipped their material into 1 file per session?
  • On some sessions, when you try to download the file you get a "Page Not Found" error, other sessions simply have a "No materials available" message
  • When you do get something it is, by and large, useless. The vast majority of "Session Materials" turn out to be just the PowerPoint Slides! The few that have anything more are simply unannotated demo files
  • I spent more than an hour painstakingly downloading over 50 files, one a time, in the hope of finally getting some value - but all I have gotten are a bunch of PowerPoint slides and the odd bit of sample code

There are NO white papers! Not one! Without a white paper a session is pretty much a waste of time.

What I mean is that at the conference you attend 15+ sessions in three days - how can anyone possibly remember all the details? You NEED the white papers so that later, when you come back to review the material, or look up the details of some vaguely remembered speaker's comment, you have some chance of finding it!

In all my years as a conference speaker I have never given a session that did not include a background paper that could be used by attendees to review the session contents and give meaning and context in retrospect. In fact I have never heard of a conference where the submission of a white paper was not part of the requirements for speakers (and I even have known cases where failure to submit a paper meant you didn't speak at all and that you were dropped from the list!)

How can a conference organization be so appallingly dismissive of their attendees?

I really feel we were ripped off from A-Z by this conference and I have already said that we would probably not attend another DevTeach - now I am sure we won't.

In fact, nothing on earth would persuade me to attend another DevTeach and unless you especially like to waste money, I strongly urge you to try another conference where, perhaps, your money and time are appreciated sufficiently by the organizers that they will make a token effort to ensure that you get reasonable value.

The one thing this has experience has taught me is that DevTeach does NOT deliver value by any reasonable measure.

Published Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:34 PM by andykr
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# re: Our DevTeach Experience Follow-Up

Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:36 PM by boudewijn lutgerink

Andy, I could not agree more.
Among other things I worked quite a lot on the whitepapers for my sessions. The materials presented during a session are in some cases so much that it is hardly possible for visitors to grasp it all. Whitepapers are a must. As I also said, having had this experience I more than ever before admire the speakers who are doing this for years on end.

So, once more I hereby express my deep respect for you and all those other speakers.

Thanks Boudewijn, but I was (and still am) angry about the lack of decent materials. It really does invalidate the conference. We even E-Mailed the organizers, who have, to date, studiously declined to respond, or even comment. That in itself is telling!
-- Andy

# re: Our DevTeach Experience Follow-Up

Friday, June 26, 2009 11:18 PM by Larry Leo

My last comment regarding DevTeach was short but Andy’s follow up requires a longer comment.

In 1989 I went to the first Conference in Toledo.  I attended every so called DevCon up to and including the 2000 conference (one year there was more than one).  I sent one of my programmers to DevCon 2001.  I attended a conference in Minnesota (so long ago can’t remember dates), one of Whil Hentzen’s conferences in Milwaukee in 2002 and Southwest Fox in 2007.  Except for Southwest Fox 2007, when I attended these conferences, I was self-employed; therefore, I paid for all of my conferences except for one.   My wife is a Fox developer and started attending conferences with me in 1992 so we spent a decent amount of money over the years on conferences.  Having said all that, for sake of discussion, let’s say I’m an experienced conference attendee.

I believe that the people in the Fox community who organize or are speakers at Fox conferences have set the gold standard for how a conference should be run.  Andy’s experience is unbelievable.  Costs are high for independent developers to go to conferences.  It’s a double whammy.  You pay both in dollars and in lost income.  At many of the Fox conferences I have been to, at the keynote the attendees were asked:  how many of you are independent developers.  Many times 30 to 40 percent of the attendees raised their hands.  I believe that this had an impact on the organizers.  They made sure the conference was a success because they understood the investment that developers were making.  Based on Andy’s description of the conference, the DevTeach organizers did not show any respect for the attendees.  And then they made it worse, as if they could, by not responding to email.  I could go on but…

Andy, even though you are not speaking at SW Fox, you may need to go just to get the “bad taste” out of your mouth.  If I get to go this year (doubtful), I can help you with that at the bar.

Your prescription sounds perfect, but unfortunately we have spent our conference budget for this year, and with two trans-atlantic trips already planned as well, plus the fact that I have to do some work some time, I really doubt we will make it this year. We had to decide where to go, unfortunately we picked very badly indeed. -- Andy

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