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Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Traditionally the ancient Roman Gladiator's salute to their Emperor, the reality is, apparently, that it was not used by gladiators but only uttered once (by slaves who were being forced to take part in a mock battle for Claudius). Interesting though that may be, you are probably wondering why I  am using it as the title for a Blog entry. That will, I trust, become apparent.

The short answer is that Marcia and I have reluctantly decided that we can no longer continue to write the "KitBox" column for FoxTalk magazine. As of August 2006 we will transferring our column (under a new, and yet-to-be decided name) to Advisor Guide to Microsoft Visual FoxPro. This is something of the end of an era for both of us. 

I have been writing for the KitBox in FoxTalk since the April 1998 issue and have 98 articles in that series to my credit. Marcia has been doing it since December of 2001 and has co-authored 56 articles. Since we live, and work, together it was easy to continue with the dialog style when Marcia became my co-author although she has, of course, stamped her own inimitable personality on the column and the feedback that we have received, over the years, has been favorable. For that we thank you all, our readers.

The first 42 columns were written with my old friend and colleague, Paul Maskens. The basic style of the column was set by the fact that we really did write the columns sitting across the table from each other and debating topics, often in the "Lamb and Flag" pub near High Wycombe in England (though there were other venues). Paul finally retired from the column in 2001 and Marcia took over. Since then we have written 56 columns and covered a wide range of topics for three great editors who left us pretty much alone and let us get on with it. (First Whil Hentzen, then David Stevenson and finally Rainer Becker).

So why are we stopping writing for FoxTalk? The short answer is that since the magazine was sold to Eli Research we have found their requirements too restrictive for us. This is not to say that are not an excellent publishing organization, or that their content is in any way inferior, but they do operate as a large company with rigid rules and requirements. Their magazine style (three columns per page, articles broken into "sections" that have separate titles and so on) may be ideal for conventional articles but does not really sit comfortably with the back and forth style of our column. We found it too difficult to work with and too constraining - the result was that writing the column ceased to be fun and became hard work.

As those of you who write articles for magazines will know only too well, the pecuniary rewards for an article are such that when viewed as an hourly rate for the effort it would be more profitable to take a job slinging hamburgers in MacDonalds, especially when you have two authors on the article. So if it ceases to be fun, there is no point in doing it. We had reached that point and we felt that the column would only suffer if we continued to try and write it under conditions in which we were not comfortable. We wish FoxTalk all the success in the world under its new owners, it is a great magazine and has great authors writing for it. However, we will be treading a different path in the future .

Advisor Magazines very kindly offered us an alternative home and now we are excited about, and looking forward to, writing the column once again. We have new topics that we want to cover but we intend to keep to the same dialog-based formula, where we first pose a problem and then work through the process of getting to a solution.

Marcia and I would like to thank the many loyal readers who have been kind enough to tell us how much they liked the KitBox column, and who have followed our adventures in programming and design over the years. We hope that you will continue to read us in our new home in the Advisor Guide to Microsoft Visual FoxPro from August of this year.

Published Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:06 PM by andykr
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# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:17 PM by Jim Winter

Fox Talks loss - Advisors gain!  As I get both, I just keep on winning.  (As long as you guys keep on writing!)

As long as someone is willing to put up with us and publish our ramblings, we'll be there

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:05 PM by josborn

Glad to hear that the column lives on and that it'll get back to being more fun for you both.

I'm subscribed to both publications so I'm happy either way.

Foxtalk will be losing a definite strength however. Your column was something that you could  always rely on when Foxtalk was getting a bit light on.

We really don't want to hurt FoxTalk, after all it has been my home from home for over 6 years, but for us it is time for a change, hopefully for the better.

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:34 PM by Tamar E. Granor

Welcome to the Advisor family. I've enjoyed the KitBox column since it's inception and look forward to its new incarnation.

Tamar

Thank you. Tamar, for all your help and advice - you were my first ever 'real' editor you know, but I won't remind you of how long ago that was {g}

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:39 PM by Christa Ayer, Senior Managing Editor, Advisor Media

I'm thrilled to have the two of you writing for Advisor. It's obvious you're a great team, so I'm really looking forward to working with you.

I'll do my best to make the transition as painless as posible ... and perhaps even slightly more fun than slinging burgers at MickeyD's. ;)

Christa

Thanks Christa, as I said in the blog, we are excited about it, and looking forward to working with you all


# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:02 PM by Rick Schummer

Congratulations Andy and Marcia. I subscribe to both magazines so I will read your column regardless on where you publish it. I really see this move to be something like a popular DJ moving to a different radio station or news anchor person changing networks. So you guys are the Katie Couric of the Fox Community! {g}

Just so long as it doesn't turn out to be the Howard Sterne!!! {g} Thanks Rick.

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:47 PM by Randy Jean
Looking forward to reading your new column in Advisor.  My employer will only spring for 1 subscription at this time and although I was a long time Foxtalk subscriber we decided to try FPA a few months ago when our FT subscription expired.  So far the content has been pretty good.  I love reading Tamar's editorials and now that you and Marcia are moving over we have more good stuff to look forward to.

Regards,
Randy

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:50 PM by Juan Calcagno

Andy,

Let's look at the positive side: you will keep publishing! To me, and many others as well, this is good news.

Now, I am curious, in case you fell like sharing it, about what changed since your your comments from your previous entry (
http://weblogs.foxite.com/andykramek/archive/2005/11/16/997.aspx ).
I should have known better than to say "never" - let's just say that things got too difficult for us with the new owners of FoxTalk and that Advisor were more than co-operative

FWIW, Congratulations and good luck to you and Marcia with your new column!

Juan Calcagno

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Friday, May 12, 2006 3:21 AM by Toni Feltman

I wondered what is going to happen with FoxTalk. I am extremely frustrated with the publisher. They have called, emailed or faxed me weekly since around January. They want me to renew my subscription that expires in November. I wonder what how many VFE users we would have if we started asking for subscription renewal money 2 months after a purchase or renewal?

Probably the same thing as happened with us - they would "vote with their feet" :)

I really hope that Eli Research can get their act together for Foxalk, but they do seem to be struggling right now - though how much of this is of their own making and how much is legacy I have no way of knowing.

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:40 PM by Pamela Thalacker

I am so excited that you are joining the Advisor team.  I remember when Will was being pressured to change the format just before Marcia joined the column.  I was very vocal with him that he should ignore those who were speaking out against it because it is such an engaging style.  I am so pleased that Advisor has recognized the value of your contribution and has made it possible for you to continue.

Thank you Pamela. We are very happy about it too and are looking forward to working with you all.

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Friday, May 19, 2006 9:13 PM by Jonathan @Eli Research

Some of these comments are making it sound as if we didn't let you continue your format, which, as you know, isn't the case. :)

Sorry if you read it that way, But you DID insist on changing the layout style and the format of the column (by making us add embedded titles if nothing else), You DID insist that we used your template, and use mixed formatting in the text as we wrote it . That's what we found to be restrictive and, as I recall, your answer to my complaints about this were. essentially, "that's the way you have do it". That's what we found to be restrictive....

We're truly sorry to see you go, but do wish that we had been given a chance to resolve any concerns you had with the layout, etc.

We certainly tried! Three columns is surely enough of an effort?

Also, if anyone feels you're getting too many renewal notices, etc., just call customer service.  They can suppress that. The phone number for customer service is at the back; and starting in June, both customer service and editor phone numbers are on the 2nd to last page.

I am sure toni Feltman will apreciate that!

# re: Morituri te salutant (Those who are about to die, salute you)

Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:05 PM by Bill Coupe

I dropped my FoxTalk subscription, and hearing that you're moving to Advisor may be enough on its own to get me to 're-up' over there!!

I can certainly give witness to the paltry sums of money that are 'paid' to writers... if it wasn't for the love of it, no one would do it!!

I hope you find your new home much more to your liking.

Thank you Bill, we hope you will continue to read, and enjoy our stuff.

# re:Salute? Yes! Die? Not soon, I hope.

Friday, June 02, 2006 4:00 PM by Dave Aring

Andy (and Marcia)...
You know how much I love your columns since I have expressed those sentiments on several occasions in the past.  However, I must express my concern for the environment.  With the addition of your column, this may force "Advisor Guide to Microsoft Visual FoxPro" to DOUBLE the size of the publication and, thus, speed up the demise of the rain forests.  Still, to be able to continue to read your columns makes the demise of the planet palatable.  Best wishes, Dave

<lol> Thanks Dave. I hope you will continue to rag on us at every opportunity.

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